Open Source Market Segment LS
Open Source Market Segment RS
×

Message

Failed loading XML... Document is empty
Monday, 16 December 2013 11:56

Crypto: FreeBSD playing catch-up, says De Raadt Featured

By

The OpenBSD project has no reason to follow the steps taken by FreeBSD with regard to hardware-based cryptography because it has already been doing this for a decade, according to Theo de Raadt.

The OpenBSD founder was scathing when asked whether his project would be doing what FreeBSD has announced: that it will reduce the role of random number generators which are built into processors from Intel and Via, over suspicions that these methods may have been compromised by the National Security Agency.

"FreeBSD has caught up to what OpenBSD has been doing for over 10 years," De Raadt (pictured above) told iTWire. "I see nothing new in their changes.

"You are not the only person who asked if we will now do something in the same direction as FreeBSD. We can't follow them - we were already leading in 2003.

"Basically, it is 10 years of FreeBSD stupidity. They don't know a thing about security. They even ignore relevant research in all fields, not just from us, but from everyone."

In its announcement about adding more sources of entropy, and not depending on the chip-based random number generators, the FreeBSD project has made direct reference to the revelations by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden that many hardware vendors have allowed the US National Security Agency to insert backdoors in their products.

Random number generators, as the name indicates, feed random numbers into the /dev/random engine on UNIX-based operating systems. These numbers are used to create cryptographic keys.

De Raadt said OpenBSD's support for the Intel CPU rdrand instruction was added in 2012. "Our support for the Intel CPU rdrand instruction was added in this commit:

date: 2012/09/19 20:19:31; author: jsg;  state: Exp;  lines: +24 -1; Add support for the rdrand instruction found in recent Intel processors. Joint work with naddy@ ok naddy@ deraadt@."

He said this code added entropy into the bottom of the randomisation subsystem, such as timings between packets or disk IOs or mouse movements.

"Essentially, we don't consider Intel RNG data any better or worse in any way, since our random subsystem is engineered *very specifically* to smooth input data into output strong-random data, safely. It follows best practices in papers by (senior Linux developer) Ted Ts'o and many others in the crypto industry."

De Raadt pointed out that "jsg" was Jonathan Gray, a developer who lives in Melbourne. "I believe this code from Jonathan slightly pre-dates hardware being available, he simply added support based on a pre-release datasheet, since the feature is fairly easy to support," he added.

"When the Intel RNG code above was added, it was simply following a pattern already established. Our first per-CPU randomisation support was for the VIA C3 cpus, which added a proprietary instruction almost a decade ahead of Intel. Here is the commit for that support:

date: 2003/03/14 22:05:43; author: deraadt; state: Exp; lines: +108 -1; branches: 1.222.2; Support for the VIA C3 Nehemiah on-cpu random number generator. This chip will be shipping soon (we have nice prototypes). Written by toby."

He said this code was added in 2003. "Like I say, it was using the same method of passing entropy into the bottom of the smoothing subsystem. We don't consider it better than mouse movements. Linux is also using an un-biasable method like us."

"Now we all discover that FreeBSD has been doing it wrong. It's not as if they operate in a closed source world, and couldn't have looked at what others did. They must have chosen a few years ago to do this wrong, intentionally.

"Perhaps that decision was made by their Californian developers, the ones who work fairly close to that NSA building.

"And now we see rah-rah articles apparently praising them for this departure from a poor method, almost as if that is innovation."

De Raadt pointed to a presentation he made recently in Russia. "It's basically a status report now that our security mitigation work is finished. It took us 10 years to completely satisfy the wish list which I spoke about in 2004, when I met you. And towards the end of these slides, it will be quite clear who is the laggard."

He also pointed to three FreeBSD statements to justify his conclusions. "Here are three more links indicating how far behind they are."

Read 90169 times

Please join our community here and become a VIP.

Subscribe to ITWIRE UPDATE Newsletter here
JOIN our iTWireTV our YouTube Community here
BACK TO LATEST NEWS here




EXL AI IN ACTION VIRTUAL EVENT 20 MARCH 2025

Industry leaders are looking to transform their businesses and achieve measurable outcomes with AI.

As organisations across APAC navigate the complexities of AI adoption, this must-attend event brings together industry leaders, real-world demonstrations, and visionary panel discussions to bridge the gap between proof-of-concepts and enterprise-wide AI implementation.

Learn how to overcome common challenges in deploying AI at scale.​

Unlock cost savings, efficiency, and better customer experiences with AI.

Discover how industry expertise and data intelligence enable practical AI deployment.

Register for the event now!

REGISTER!

PROMOTE YOUR WEBINAR ON ITWIRE

It's all about Webinars.

Marketing budgets are now focused on Webinars combined with Lead Generation.

If you wish to promote a Webinar we recommend at least a 3 to 4 week campaign prior to your event.

The iTWire campaign will include extensive adverts on our News Site itwire.com and prominent Newsletter promotion https://itwire.com/itwire-update.html and Promotional News & Editorial. Plus a video interview of the key speaker on iTWire TV https://www.youtube.com/c/iTWireTV/videos which will be used in Promotional Posts on the iTWire Home Page.

Now we are coming out of Lockdown iTWire will be focussed to assisting with your webinars and campaigns and assistance via part payments and extended terms, a Webinar Business Booster Pack and other supportive programs. We can also create your adverts and written content plus coordinate your video interview.

We look forward to discussing your campaign goals with you. Please click the button below.

MORE INFO HERE!

BACK TO HOME PAGE
Sam Varghese

Sam Varghese has been writing for iTWire since 2006, a year after the site came into existence. For nearly a decade thereafter, he wrote mostly about free and open source software, based on his own use of this genre of software. Since May 2016, he has been writing across many areas of technology. He has been a journalist for nearly 40 years in India (Indian Express and Deccan Herald), the UAE (Khaleej Times) and Australia (Daily Commercial News (now defunct) and The Age). His personal blog is titled Irregular Expression.

Share News tips for the iTWire Journalists? Your tip will be anonymous

Subscribe to Newsletter

*  Enter the security code shown: img0

WEBINARS & EVENTS

CYBERSECURITY

PEOPLE MOVES

GUEST ARTICLES

Guest Opinion

ITWIRETV & INTERVIEWS

RESEARCH & CASE STUDIES

Channel News

Comments